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Analyst Michael Nathanson: Digital Media Starting To Eat Television’s Lunch

12/5/2014   Deadline  

Here’s the No. 1 question moguls will have to address next week when many converge at the UBS Global Media and Communications Conference in NYC, a forum where they typically offer their forecasts for the coming year: Is the recent slowdown in TV ad sales and the shocking drop in ratings this summer and fall — especially in cable, long the industry’s growth engine — just the result of short term weirdness? Or do they reflect an alarming long term problem? You can guess what most of them will say.

But they’ll face a lot of skeptics, largely due to the challenging findings of analysts including MoffettNathanson Research’s Michael Nathanson, who titled one widely read study in October: “The Ship Be Sinking.” Digital media are starting to eat television’s lunch, he concluded. Yes, short-term issues, some involving Nielsen’s measurements, also are at play. Yet investors can’t afford to ignore how many viewers are leaving the TV ecosystem to watch the vast array of online alternatives including Netflix and YouTube. Or how many advertisers are starting to divert their dollars to the Web. Spitballs from a publicity hound? Hardly. Nathanson has topped Institutional Investor magazine’s ranking of the country’s best Media analysts for seven of the last nine years.

The TV business picture only seems to have deteriorated since he wrote that report. Live-plus-same-day audiences for broadcast and cable are down 9+% so far this quarter, vs the period last year. Nathanson recently cut his TV ad sales estimate for 2014 (to 5% growth from 6.4%) — and predicts a 1.6% drop in 2015. We caught up with him to help sort through the issues. Here’s his take, edited for length and clarity.

DEADLINE: You say that concerns about weakening TV ad sales have dominated your conversations with clients over the last two quarters. What’s their fear?
NATHANSON: Their fear is that this is the beginning of the end of growth for television advertising. Over the past decade you’ve seen online [content providers] take market share from print. The worry is that there’s not that much print market share to take any more. The next thing they’re going to go after is television’s share of advertising.

DEADLINE: Even traditional media companies agree that some dollars are shifting from TV to digital.
NATHANSON: What we’re debating now is the speed of that decline [for TV]. It could be only 1% of market share or it could be 3%. We don’t know if this year was weird because we had summer weakness in key categories. For example, having a bad film summer [in box office sales] totally translates into television because you don’t have as many ads that go on TV in the third quarter for tentpoles or blockbusters.

DEADLINE: Some say that TV will be fine because advertisers want to be surrounded by premium content. They don’t want to be associated with the user-generated stuff on YouTube.Nathanson 1
NATHANSON: The mistake the analyst community is making is thinking that the share of TV [advertising] going to the Internet is just going to online video. What about social? What about mobile? What about more search spending? Look at the growth rates at Facebook or Twitter or Google. Or my friends at Iconic TV which has a JV with Jay-Z. They’re getting branded entertainment dollars. They’re not getting billions of dollars. But they’re getting dollars. It’s way too easy to say ads can’t all be going to YouTube because Coke and Pepsi don’t want to be surrounded by kids with skateboards going down staircases.

DEADLINE: Is competition from digital the only problem for TV?
NATHANSON: There’s also weakness in some key ad categories for television like film and auto. And there’s weakness in ratings.

DEADLINE: A lot of CEOs say that this is largely Nielsen’s fault. Once it catches up with digital viewing, then TV will be fine.
NATHANSON: The first debate we talked about was advertising. The second debate — and it’s kind of been in the past four months — has been this incredible decline in cable networks ratings starting in June and July. I would argue that some of that has to be based on a measurement issue. There’s some ongoing viewer consumption on tablets and VOD and phone that’s not being captured. And there’s probably some element of Nielsen adjusting their sample this year to include broadband only homes – people who don’t have TV.

Nathanson2DEADLINE: How did the addition of broadband-only homes affect ratings?
NATHANSON: It probably impacted measurement of younger viewers. There was a big decline among young viewers in the third quarter. And it’s not like they all just figured out that they have Netflix and Amazon. Netflix’s third-quarter subscription adds weren’t unusual. So it’s incorrect to say it’s all about viewers’ shifting behavior, and it all happened in the third quarter.

DEADLINE: But Netflix and other streaming services are taking viewers.
NATHANSON: I don’t want to be too dismissive. I just don’t think you can count a 9% or 10% decline in viewers this quarter going to Netflix.

DEADLINE: How have networks responded to the weakening ad sales and ratings?
NATHANSON: Typically when ratings are weak there’s more inflation in the marketplace. What’s really weird, and somewhat troubling, is that ratings have been weak and inflation’s not really kicked up that much.

DEADLINE: What do you mean by inflation?
NATHANSON: When networks have bad ratings they often don’t have the inventory [of ratings points] to sell. Dollars come in looking for viewers, and less viewers to be sold means that the price per viewer will go up.

DEADLINE: What’s different now?
NATHANSON: This time around a lot of the companies in our sector have just added more commercials. If you watch the credits of some shows on cable, sometimes the credits go whirling by very quickly to get a commercial in there. If you look at people who had ratings that are down, including Viacom, Discovery or Time Warner, our analysis shows that they’ve been adding inventory.

DEADLINE: Do they have much choice? They’ve increased their spending for sports and original programming. Costs are going up but advertising isn’t.
NATHANSON: This is our theme for this year: Profit margins in the industry are not going up. Employees are seeing cutbacks at Turner and Scripps Networks. You’re basically dependent on affiliate fees to grow. That’s going to be interesting if, or when, Comcast and Time Warner Cable, and AT&T and DirecTV, merge.

DEADLINE: If programmers raise their prices, then won’t distributors raise consumer rates?
NATHANSON: Exactly. This is all incredibly logical. All these moving pieces make a ton of sense.

Nathanson3DEADLINE: Could TV Everywhere streaming and ad supported VOD generate additional revenues and stop the bleeding?
NATHANSON: Yes. But TV Everywhere is a five or six-year-old premise and, with the exception of some platforms, has not been very well rolled out. We’ve been waiting for addressability for about a decade now. It’s really complicated to get this done.

DEADLINE: Where do we go from here? Is the traditional TV business destined to decline?
NATHANSON: That’s a good question. We think that the growth rates will slow. Maybe in the old days cable networks would grow advertising at mid to high single digit rates and now they’re going to grow it low to mid. I don’t think this is print circa 1999 where the best days are behind them. I just think the growth rate is going to be slower.

DEADLINE: If this has been going on for a long time, what makes you so sure that we’ve reached a turning point?
NATHANSON: I’m very cautious about yelling fire in a movie house. But on some of these nights we see terrible ratings. At some point you say, ‘Why am I paying such a huge premium for everything on broadcast and everything on cable?’

big-bang-theoryDEADLINE: You borrow a great concept from baseball — the Mendoza Line* — to determine when networks cancel low-rated shows. How does that factor in to your analysis?
NATHANSON: It shows us the increasing failure rate to create a broadcast hit. Broadcast hits are valuable in two ways. They become long-term syndication franchises. The other side of the coin is, if you’re a cable network, you want to have a crack at a show with a high rating because that can translate into ratings stability. You look at TBS and TNT and USA, and there’s been a real deficit of big programming. Once Big Bang Theory was bought, there’s not been super-duper, Type A content to change the direction of cable networks. We’ve been warning our friends at Turner and USA – all the programmers – look, you’ve got a problem on your hands.

DEADLINE: All these channels are investing in originals. Is there enough talent to give them all hits?
NATHANSON:  I don’t know on the talent side. It seems interesting that more and more movie folks are working in television. They’re engaged. It’s steady income. The media have never produced better shows. But I look at the backend and I worry that, at some point down the road, there’s going to be too much supply and not enough buyers within the U.S.

DEADLINE: Netflix and other streaming services have joined the ranks of buyers.
NATHANSON: What’s interesting is that there been some shows – The Blacklist, Gotham, Elementary –  that have been taken by Netflix either ahead of or with traditional syndication. So Netflix has moved in to fill some of that cable dollar loss. That’s pretty interesting to us. We’ll see, as Netflix produces more originals, how much interest they have in buying as much in syndication as they have.

DEADLINE: Has that affected the creative process? Are producers developing shows specifically for streaming services?
NATHANSON: Amazon, Netflix, and Hulu are looking for serialized dramas. At the upfront presentations [in the Spring] we saw: This is a dark, 13-episode series with a crime in the first episode, a false solution in the sixth episode and then some darkness and then finally in the 13th episode the crime is solved. They all have the same kind of ideas. And the buyers of those shows are the SVOD [Subscription VOD] players. Those aren’t going to be bought by cable networks or broadcast stations.

DEADLINE: Is this why we’re starting to see over-the-top announcements like CBS All Access? Is that a strategy for networks to control their own destinies?
NATHANSON: We’re seeing a growing number of people who are not part of the TV universe. We think there are 9 or 10 million homes out there that are broadcast-only or broadband only, and the majority of those homes tend to be 18 to 34. So there’s a growing awareness that there’s a demographic shift taking place on consumption patterns and we need a way to reach those people.

DEADLINE: What do they want?
NATHANSON: Our work suggests that 18 to 34-year-olds may not want what we think they want. They only want 10 channels for $10. Or they’re happy using their parents’ Netflix account, or their roommates’ parents’ HBO Go account. Maybe what they have is good enough. And we have a firm belief that there is this drip-drip-drip of share loss every year in pay-TV homes. There’s not a cliff moment where it all goes to hell. As one of my colleagues said, it’s magazines not music. The decline in magazines was predictable. We knew what was going to happen eventually in terms of the circulation base. But I covered music, and there it was chaos theory. I kind of think this is going to have a predictable slope on pay-TV. We’ll find that out as time goes on.

DEADLINE: So no rush to bust up the pay TV bundle, or offer channels a la carte?
NATHANSON: I don’t think companies will be totally disruptive because the majority of their growth comes from affiliate fees. So they can’t be that disruptive because they’ll kill the golden goose. And these companies are not dumb. This is still a really good business.

DEADLINE: Who’ll thrive, and who’ll be hurt most?
NATHANSON: Premier events, big scale, and sports are going to be able to drive prices because they deliver something that’s unique to the ecosystem. Scale is going to get you your affiliate fee negotiations. Scale is going to get you your investment in technology to maybe find dollars outside the ecosystem. You have to have international presence. That will definitely matter because most of these trends are US-based at this point in time. But secondary and tertiary cable networks and dayparts between 9:00 AM and 8:00 PM are going to be devalued. It’s not going to be this broad-based rising tide for everybody.

*It comes from a baseball statistic used to define unacceptably bad hitting, named after former journeyman shortstop Mario Mendoza who typically batted about .200.

 

http://deadline.com/2014/12/tv-ad-sales-slowing-ratings-decline-digital-media-michael-nathanson-1201295025/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Netflix Is Creating One Of The Most Expensive TV Shows In The World — Here’s Why It’s So Important Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/netflix-marco-polo-tv-show-budget-2014-11#ixzz3L595Q6db

11/30/2014  Business Insider   by Lisa Eadicicco

Netflix is preparing this month to launch its newest original series, “Marco Polo,” which focuses on the life of the famous explorer, including his interactions with Kublai Kahn.

It’s one of the most expensive TV series ever made, according to The New York Times, with a cost of $90 million to produce 10 episodes. The only show with a higher budget is HBO’s “Game Of Thrones.”

But there’s another reason “Marco Polo” is so important for Netflix. The company is hoping the series will appeal to international audiences as it expands, especially because Netflix holds the international rights to “Marco Polo.”

Netflix didn’t hold any international rights to other popular shows like “House Of Cards,” which is why the series was able to appear on rival platforms in Germany and France, according to The Times.

But offering a blockbuster show that subscribers — including those overseas — can get only through Netflix could help the company reach its goal of becoming a global company.

Netflix is already hard at work with its international rollout, but subscriber growth hasn’t been booming as much as many had hoped.

In October, following its European launch in September, the company reported that it had added 2 million international subscribers, which is below the 2.36 million estimate many were expecting. Domestic growth has slowed too, as Netflix reported 975,000 subscribers in the US versus the 1.33 million many were expecting.

This sluggish growth in the US makes international expansion that much more important for Netflix. Executives and producers working on the show told The Times they thought the show would resonate with audiences overseas, especially because the plot focused on a heroic journey to which all cultures could relate. Netflix is also relying on the show to promote its streaming service in general as in enters new markets.

“Marco Polo” will debut on all of its global properties on Dec. 12. Check out the trailer below to get an idea of what to expect.

http://www.businessinsider.com/netflix-marco-polo-tv-show-budget-2014-11

 

 

 

NBCUniversal Taps Evan Shapiro as EVP Digital Enterprises

12/02/2014   THR   by Natalie Jarvey

Evan Shapiro

He most recently ran cable network Pivot

Former Pivot president Evan Shapiro has joined NBCUniversal as executive vp digital enterprises.

In the newly created role, Shapiro will develop digital properties to reach emerging audiences and will focus on creating alternative platforms and direct-to-consumer distribution models. Shapiro, who starts Dec. 8, will be based out of New York and report to executive vp Cesar Conde.

Shapiro launched Pivot, the TV arm of Participant Media, in August 2013, and was responsible for the conception, development and production of the cable network’s original programming, including Joseph Gordon Levitt‘s HitRecord on TV. He left the company in November this year, and was replaced by Participant Media’s Kent Rees, who took the role of general manager.

Previously, Shapiro served as president of IFC TV and Sundance Channel. During his tenure, each network earned their first Primetime Emmy nominations. He has also executive produced a number of documentaries and series, including This Film is Not Yet Rated and IFC’s Portlandia.

“Evan brings a robust understanding of emerging media trends and extensive experience programming for the millennial audience to NBCUniversal,” said Conde. “He’s a seasoned strategic thinker with a strong track record of programming, production and digital marketing successes. His leadership will be a key asset as we continue to navigate the evolving marketplace.”

 

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/nbcuniversal-taps-evan-shapiro-as-753408

THE FUTURE OF DIGITAL: 2014 [SLIDE DECK]

12/4/2014   Business Insider   by Henry Blodget and Tony Danova

We’re at Business Insider’s Ignition event to hear from business leaders and notable folks in the tech space, who are sharing their thoughts on where the future of digital business is heading.

To kick off today’s events, Business Insider CEO Henry Blodget delivered the following presentation put together with the help of the BI Intelligence team.

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The TV Industry As We Know It May Really, Finally Be Entering A Death Spiral

12/3/2014   Business Insider   by

In the past six months, something has changed with the TV industry, according to AOL CEO Tim Armstrong.

On stage at our Ignition conference, Armstrong said he recently heard from an advertiser who said he got a rebate for his TV ad budget because the ads weren’t going to be filled. The advertiser needed to spend the extra money digitally as quickly as possible.

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Tim Armstrong breaks the news at Ignition.

It’s unclear whether this was just a one-time blip or the start of something different. Armstrong seemed to believe the latter. He thinks digital video advertising is finally starting to suck dollars from TV advertising.

New data from Nielsen explains why this is happening. Last quarter, TV viewing was down 4%, while video streaming was up 60%.

Off stage, Armstrong pointed us toward an interview Daryl Simm, CEO of Omnicom’s media operations, participated in with The Wall Street Journal in October. In the interview, Simm recommended advertisers shift 10% to 25% of their budgets away from TV to digital.

When an agency is telling people to shift their budgets, it’s a big deal. It means the money that’s been supporting traditional TV is going to go towards digital properties. As that money flows out of traditional TV, the traditional TV industry is going to struggle to do what it’s done for years.

As for whether this is just a blip or a long-term thing, Armstrong told us that he recently hosted Thanksgiving at his house. He had a bunch of kids over, from teenagers to young adults in their 20s. He saw them all sitting around in the living room watching video on their phones instead of looking up at the TV.

Are those kids going to suddenly change and start watching regular TV when they get older? Probably not.

 

http://www.businessinsider.com/aol-ceo-something-has-changed-2014-12

HLN, The Daily Dot Partner for Co-Branded TV, Digital Segments

11/18/2014   The Wrap  

Debut partnership segment on HLN is titled “Next Sex,” where EJ Dickson explores the crossover between sex and tech on the web

HLN rebranded as the TV home for social media earlier this year, and now it’s joining forces with the Internet site that covers the Internet.

HLN and TheDailyDot.com announced a partnership Tuesday that will feature co-branded segments appearing on HLN and both companies websites and social platforms.

The first on-air segment, dubbed “Next Sex,” debuts Dec. 1. It will follow The Daily Dot’s EJ Dickson as she takes viewers through the Internet’s culture of naughtiness, reporting on stories that fuse sex and technology.

The segments will air weekly on Monday during “HLN Now” from noon-5 p.m. ET. There will also be integration of Daily Dot journalists, with figures from the site appearing on HLN shows with Robin Meade, Dr. Drew Pinsky and more when the story fits.

“The Daily Dot has the best Internet beat reporters and HLN has the video chops,” said Lila King, senior director for product and partnerships at HLN. “Together, we can invent storytelling about and for the Internet and serve it up everywhere our audiences demand it, on-air, online and across social media.”

“Our Internet-first approach to journalism is the perfect partner for HLN as it rebrands itself as the world’s first social media-driven news network,” said Josh Rubin, The Daily Dot’s managing director. “It’s a great opportunity to bring our reporting to television and to introduce our audience to some of HLN’s great content.”

 

http://www.thewrap.com/hln-the-daily-dot-partner-for-co-branded-tv-digital-segments/

 

WME, CAA Digital Agents Depart for Fullscreen, Kin Community

11/13/2014   Variety 

A pair of agents focused on digital media at WME and CAA exited Thursday to new roles at two different Internet content companies.

WME’s Beau Bryant is moving to Fullscreen, where he will run the talent management department run by Larry Shapiro until last month, when he departed for a similar role at AwesomenessTV-owned Big Frame.

Bryant was instrumental in guiding the careers of a roster of digital-friendly talent at WME including Grace Helbig, the Fine Bros and Rosanna Pansino, where he opened doors to TV opportunities. He also worked with producers that worked on YouTube properties including Rainn Wilson’s Soul Pancake and Felicia Day’s Geek & Sundry.

In a separate move, Sarah Passe of CAA’s digital division has decamped for Kin Community, a company formerly known as DECA that specializes in targeting female auds online.

“I am looking forward to bringing my experience from CAA and Digitas to my new role at Kin Community,” she said via statement. “I have worked with (Kin CEO) Michael Wayne and Kin in many capacities for years and am excited to join the team and help them continue to build an incredible business.”

News was first reported by VideoInk.

 

http://variety.com/2014/digital/news/wme-caa-digital-agents-depart-for-fullscreen-kin-community-1201356113/

 

Marissa Mayer’s Yahoo Has Been Great for Startups

11/12/2014    Slate   By Jeff Bercovici

Expensive tastes.

Marissa Mayer’s two-year tenure as CEO of Yahoo hasn’t been especially fruitful in terms of revenue growth or the value of the company’s core business. But, boy, has it been a boon to the startup economy.

With the $640 million purchase of BrightRoll, an advertising technology firm that specializes in online video, the Sunnyvale, California-based Web giant has now spent more than $2.1 billion on acquisitions since Mayer’s arrival in July 2012. In fact, it has spent considerably more: That figure, calculated by S&P Capital IQ, reflects only eight of the 49 companies snapped up over the period. Prices for the other 41 weren’t disclosed publicly.

BrightRoll is one of the few additions that ought to justify its price tag in relatively short order. Most of the others—including Tumblr, the largest deal at nearly $1 billion—have yet to do so. Many were quickly shut down and explained—or written off—as “acqui-hires,” perpetrated as a way to bring engineering talent into the fold.

In the ordinary course of things, a CEO who’s not showing much in the way of top-line growth would have a hard time selling an unending series of pricy acquisitions to her board of directors. But Mayer’s had a free hand thanks to the appreciation of its stake in the Chinese e-commerce company Alibaba, now worth $44 billion. (For reference, Yahoo as a whole is worth $47 billion.) It has already pocketed $6 billion in cash, after taxes, from the sale of shares in Alibaba’s IPO.

That means Yahoo has plenty of cash lying around if Mayer wants to keep rolling up small and medium-sized startups, or even to make a play for a big one, like Pinterest. Some analysts believe the visual social network is the most logical acquisition target for Yahoo, or at least would have been before its valuation climbed to $5 billion in May.

But some major Yahoo shareholders are keen to put the brakes on Mayer’s shopping spree. The hedge fund Starboard Value LP is agitating for Yahoo to merge its core business with AOL, with which it’s strategically aligned, rather than continue to bolt on new parts willy-nilly. And Reuters reports that two of Yahoo’s biggest shareholders have grown so impatient, they’ve taken to lobbying AOL CEO Tim Armstrong to make the deal happen.

The appearance in the third quarter of modest revenue growth might give Mayer the breathing room she needs to convince investors to give her strategy more time, if she’s able to maintain the momentum. But if the pressure continues to mount, Mayer may find she has no choice but to start returning more of her funny money to shareholders. And that will mean a lot fewer comfortable exits for startups in need of a home.   

 

This article originally appeared in Inc.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2014/11/12/yahoo_marissa_mayer_startup_buying_spree_may_end_despite_more_money_from.html

Korean Digital Studio Launches in Partnership With Funny or Die, CAA (Exclusive)

11/13/2014   THR   by Natalie Jarvey

Be Funny Studios will co-produce videos with Funny or Die

A new digital studio is looking to replicate the success of Funny or Die in Korea.

Be Funny Studios launched Thursday in partnership with the comedy website, Creative Artists Agency and Korean public relations giant Prain.

The studio will partner with talent from the Asia Pacific region to create one-off comedy shorts, branded videos and web series. Much like Funny or Die, Be Funny plans to produce between 15 and 20 of these videos a month, premiering them on the studio’s website before distributing them on other video platforms, such as YouTube and DailyMotion. In addition, Funny or Die has the rights to promote any of the Be Funny videos on its site.

While most of Be Funny’s video’s will be geared toward Asian audiences, the studio, which is based in Seoul, will also look to co-produce shorts with Funny or Die every month that also feature Hollywood talent that could cross over to American audiences.

“Digitally distributed content is inherently global, but not all comedy crosses borders so easily,” said Funny or Die chief operating officer and president of digital Mitch Galbraith. “We’re excited to help BFS make great comedy content for Asia and to collaborate with them on co-productions of content designed to crossover Asia and the US.”

The genesis for Be Funny came in 2012 when the video for Psy‘s Gangnam Style became a viral hit. “That video showed the power of content from Korea and showed that if it’s great content, it can cross over to the U.S. despite the language barrier,” says co-founder Won Lee.

That year Lee spent time at Funny or Die’s West Hollywood offices “learning about the culture and how they’ve become a successful operation.” He then arranged Be Funny’s first collaboration with Funny or Die on Anna Kendrick Goes K-Pop With f(x), which shows the Pitch Perfect star learning how to join one of Korea’s most popular girl groups.

“When the video was released, it had more than 5 million viewers worldwide,” says co-founder and chief creative officer Chris Lee. “It was basically 70 percent international, 30 percent domestic. And we realized there was a huge opportunity.”

The group has since co-produced another video with Funny or Die, Girl, You Better Walk starring Rita Ora and Korean pop star HyunA. Then, earlier this year Funny or Die and CAA came on board as equity partners, and Korean film producer Ho Sung Kim signed as a producing partner.

With the launch, Be Funny is rolling out its first independent franchise, What’s Eating Steven Yeun. The web series follows the Walking Dead star as he leaves his girlfriend, Sandara Park of girl group 2ne1, to return to his home country of South Korea. There, he gets sucked into the viral craze of “broadcast eating.” The video has both English and Korean dialog with subtitles. The videos also come subtitled for other major Asian languages. The founder say it’s important to have that cross-cultural appeal.

“We are both Korean Americans,” says Won Lee. “I grew up watching Saturday Night Live, but I watch a lot of Korean comedies too. These collaborations are very important.”

 

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/korean-digital-studio-launches-partnership-748686

 

Sandy Grushow on Hollywood’s Need to ‘Connect West of the 405 With East of the 405′

11/9/2014   The Wrap  

Former Fox TV chairman Sandy Grushow is mining for gold in Silicon Beach – here’s why

After a long career in television including  as chairman of the Fox Television Entertainment Group, TV executive Sandy Grushow has taken a stealth leap into the new digital economy. He spent two years as the chief creative officer of MediaLink and two years ago started his own company, Phase 2 Media, exploring innovative business ideas in Silicon Beach.  He got grilled on his new venture by TheWrap’s Sharon Waxman.

SW: You started this company two years ago, why?
SG: After I left Fox, it quickly became clear to me that I had gone as far as I could go in the traditional television business. That the media world was changing rapidly and dramatically. And that my timing was very fortunate in that I had the opportunity to take part in the digital revolution.

The challenge was figuring out the best way to learn about the space. I quickly realized that I couldn’t get my digital PhD by reading the Hollywood trade papers in the Polo Lounge. There was only one realistic path, and that was to roll up my sleeves, dive in and get dirty. That’s what I’ve been doing for the past few years.

Explain what you mean by roll up your sleeves and get dirty.
I became fascinated with the world of startups and early stage companies by spending a lot of time down at accelerators on Silicon Beach in Santa Monica. Launchpad LA, the Amplify, the Mucker labs.  And it was really there that that it struck me that there was a great need to connect what was happening west of the 405 to what was happening east of the 405.

I love that distinction. We talk a lot about the divide southern California, but you’re saying that divide exists within Los Angeles?
Correct. I felt it was low-hanging fruit. One of the first entrepreneurs I met was a dynamic woman named Tracy DiNunzio who was starting an ecommerce platform called Tradesy, for women to buy and sell clothes out of their closets.

Her biggest challenge was customer acquisition costs. The first thing that struck me was the possibility of creating a cable television show, and we’re now working on a format with Core Media Group, which if we’re successful in selling to a network, will give Tracy the opportunity to integrate her platform into the show.

Another example is a company named Two Bit Circus. These guys have set out to reimagine out- of-home entertainment using the technology that’s available, starting with a conventional carnival. Starting this month in downtown LA, they’re launching the Steam Carnival, which takes traditional amusements at a carnival and hits them with laser and fire, and makes them relevant for the younger consumer.

Once I met them, it occurred to me that they had a television series in them. They’re whimsical inventors. They refer to themselves as a Merry Band of Nerds. The founder and CEO is Brent Bushnell, his father is Nolan Bushnell who founded Atari and also Chuck e Cheese. So Brent obviously had invention in his DNA. I introduced them to Craig Piligian at Pilgrim Entertainment, who has some 40-some odd shows on the air. We cooked up a format, and we’re currently in deep discussions with multiple cable networks.

Why is this divide we’re talking about, even within Los Angeles?
When we talk about east of the 405 and west of the 405. I felt there are opportunities to leverage television in the interest of building digital businesses. That’s a huge advantage that start-ups and early stage companies have here in southern California over those in northern California. We have an obligation to try to be as helpful as possible.

Why aren’t others doing what you’re doing? What is that disconnect about?
You really need to establish credibility for yourself in both worlds. The only way to establish cred west of the 405 is to spend a significant amount of time and energy helping and learning.

You started advising these companies?
I started out by mentoring. Trying to be helpful. In all humility, I was offering the experience of someone who had run companies, and who knew traditional media industry. Mentoring quickly turned to advising, being offered lots of board seats. A good piece of advice I got was: First get busy, then get picky. Over time you get to know folks down there. The MCNs (multi-channel networks) were born down there. A lot of these people come from purely tech backgrounds, and they start businesses because the barrier to entry is so low, without a real knowledge of how to build a business.

Now I advise close to two dozen of these companies. And we’re doing a lot of stuff in the over the top space.

On the one hand, Drama Fever is an over the top content company, it licenses Korean dramas, and was acquired by Soft Bank. I was a strategic adviser – that was a good day for me. On the other side of the ledger, I sold along with Wellesely Wild (Ted, Family Guy) a show to Fox Broadcast company, The Weatherman.

This is an example of my life: The CEO of Mobcaster (a crowdfunding company) got in touch with me, he asked if I would look at this pilot that these two Australian kids had posted on Mobcaster in an effort to raise $73,000 so they could shoot six more episodes.

I said to the CEO, ‘You realize that $73,000 is craft services money.’ I went back to my hotel room, watched it, thought it was hilarious, I was blown away.  I called them and ask what they wanted to do. They said, “We want to leave this provincial country of ours and come to Hollywood to make sitcoms.” I hung up on the phone, and on a lark, and sent (20th Century Fox Television co-Chairman) Dana Walden an email asking if she would do me the favor and watch The Weatherman. Frankly I didn’t imagine I’d hear back from her. Within an hour I got an email saying, ‘This is really funny.” I’m sending it to Johnny – Jonathan Davis (president of creative affairs at Fox). He got back to me and said, ‘I love this, I want to buy this.’

It was one of most gratifying calls I’ve ever made in my career. I called Australia and said, ‘Twentieth Century Fox television wants to buy your show and adapt it for television.’

 

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